Post by Sephiroth on Mar 26, 2006 8:07:11 GMT -5
I found this post while searching for the deities of Azeroth, the world on which World of Warcraft takes place and nearly fell out of my chair laughing.
The post that followed also made me grin evilly.
No Gods in Azeroth March 18th, 2006
Finally… some GOOD NEWS!
From the article:
But what, exactly, do atheists believe in, if not in God?
In a nutshell, atheists believe in reason alone, in those things that can be arrived at through intellect and the scientific method. Concrete evidence for God, they argue, simply doesn’t exist. They don’t cotton to leaps of faith or anything that involves a supernatural being reaching into human lives. They believe you can live a happy, respectable life based on human ethics that were derived not from God handing down a tablet but from a code of rules that emerged naturally through an evolutionary process in which humans learned how to live together successfully.
Ugh. i had the displeasure of running past a Gnome from the guild “Christian Crusaders” in Stormwind (in the World of WarCraft MMORPG) a few days ago. Not wanting to even THINK about debating someone in my leasure-time activity of playing a video game, i simpy smirked to myself and ran on buy. Unfortunetaly, “Angelazeroth” decided to invite me into her guild. Here is an e-mail i sent a to a friend of mine about the experience:
...actually, it was “Christian Crusaders’ or some such nonsense.
i was running thru SW and saw “Angelazeroth” (a gnome) with the guild tag… i simply smirked and kept running to the AH. she PMed me asking to join. i said “
… no thanks, i don;t believe in magic in RL.” to which she replied, “well, neither did i until i read this one book! ….”
i asked her how she based her entire belief system on a single book, etc..
ugh.. it was brutal. all she could do was keep saying “just read this website or this book or this former atheist said…”
she said that atheists don;t exist because to say that God doesn;t exist, one would need perfect knowledge.
i then asked her if she believed in the Flying Spaghetti Monster.. after all, she can’t DISprove it, therefore it MUST exist…
i explained that claiming that there IS a God (and HER exact God to be precise) is a positive claim. it is not MY job to DISprove it, but rather, HER job TO prove it. >_< she even quoted "Dr." Kent Hovind... the biggest dumbass Creationist ever...
i swear.. i can't deal with that sort of idiocy. ESPECIALLY in my freaking video game that i play to GET AWAY from that BS...
Brian fussed at me for debating her... "dude, you're not going to change her mind"...
yeah, but it is MY duty as a skeptic and a reasonable person to let her know that her cult is in the minority and that it has very valid and glaring flaws.. and that not everyone simply accepts her delusions as being true. silence can imply acceptance or tolerance. i have neither for that baseless drivel.
I saw a few of their memebers a few days later and realized what bothered me about their guild name so much.
“Christian Crusaders” is basically the same as “Islam Jihadists”. I petitioned a GM about the name of their guild, which is obviously against the EULA/ToU about using real world religions, politicians, etc… as an in-game name, and lo and behold, it has been changed… to “Angels of Azeroth”.
In the fantasy world and universe of the World of Warcraft, there are no TRUE Deities… just very powerful entities such as Titans ands Demons. The Light is simply a magical manifestation of the concept. Last i checked, neither Thrall nor Medivh consulted or prayed to Jesus when going into battle…
Finally… some GOOD NEWS!
From the article:
But what, exactly, do atheists believe in, if not in God?
In a nutshell, atheists believe in reason alone, in those things that can be arrived at through intellect and the scientific method. Concrete evidence for God, they argue, simply doesn’t exist. They don’t cotton to leaps of faith or anything that involves a supernatural being reaching into human lives. They believe you can live a happy, respectable life based on human ethics that were derived not from God handing down a tablet but from a code of rules that emerged naturally through an evolutionary process in which humans learned how to live together successfully.
Ugh. i had the displeasure of running past a Gnome from the guild “Christian Crusaders” in Stormwind (in the World of WarCraft MMORPG) a few days ago. Not wanting to even THINK about debating someone in my leasure-time activity of playing a video game, i simpy smirked to myself and ran on buy. Unfortunetaly, “Angelazeroth” decided to invite me into her guild. Here is an e-mail i sent a to a friend of mine about the experience:
...actually, it was “Christian Crusaders’ or some such nonsense.
i was running thru SW and saw “Angelazeroth” (a gnome) with the guild tag… i simply smirked and kept running to the AH. she PMed me asking to join. i said “
… no thanks, i don;t believe in magic in RL.” to which she replied, “well, neither did i until i read this one book! ….”i asked her how she based her entire belief system on a single book, etc..
ugh.. it was brutal. all she could do was keep saying “just read this website or this book or this former atheist said…”
she said that atheists don;t exist because to say that God doesn;t exist, one would need perfect knowledge.
i then asked her if she believed in the Flying Spaghetti Monster.. after all, she can’t DISprove it, therefore it MUST exist…
i explained that claiming that there IS a God (and HER exact God to be precise) is a positive claim. it is not MY job to DISprove it, but rather, HER job TO prove it. >_< she even quoted "Dr." Kent Hovind... the biggest dumbass Creationist ever...
i swear.. i can't deal with that sort of idiocy. ESPECIALLY in my freaking video game that i play to GET AWAY from that BS...
Brian fussed at me for debating her... "dude, you're not going to change her mind"...
yeah, but it is MY duty as a skeptic and a reasonable person to let her know that her cult is in the minority and that it has very valid and glaring flaws.. and that not everyone simply accepts her delusions as being true. silence can imply acceptance or tolerance. i have neither for that baseless drivel.
I saw a few of their memebers a few days later and realized what bothered me about their guild name so much.
“Christian Crusaders” is basically the same as “Islam Jihadists”. I petitioned a GM about the name of their guild, which is obviously against the EULA/ToU about using real world religions, politicians, etc… as an in-game name, and lo and behold, it has been changed… to “Angels of Azeroth”.
In the fantasy world and universe of the World of Warcraft, there are no TRUE Deities… just very powerful entities such as Titans ands Demons. The Light is simply a magical manifestation of the concept. Last i checked, neither Thrall nor Medivh consulted or prayed to Jesus when going into battle…
The post that followed also made me grin evilly.
March 19th, 2006
If you’ve never been to Snopes.com, i’d highly recommend it. Its a wonderful resource to combat those bloody stupid e-mails that seem to get passed around that make outrageous claims, inflammatory comments or general propaganda and lies.
But, occasionally, something true is sent around.. something like THIS:
On Wednesday, March 1, 2006, at a hearing on the proposed Constitutional Amendment to prohibit gay marriage, Jamie Raskin, professor of law at AU, was requested to testify.
At the end of his testimony, Republican Senator Nancy Jacobs said: “Mr. Raskin, my Bible says marriage is only between a man and a woman. What do you have to say about that?”
Raskin replied: “Senator, when you took your oath of office, you placed your hand on the Bible and swore to uphold the Constitution. You did not place your hand on the Constitution and swear to uphold the Bible.”
The room erupted into applause.
If you’ve never been to Snopes.com, i’d highly recommend it. Its a wonderful resource to combat those bloody stupid e-mails that seem to get passed around that make outrageous claims, inflammatory comments or general propaganda and lies.
But, occasionally, something true is sent around.. something like THIS:
On Wednesday, March 1, 2006, at a hearing on the proposed Constitutional Amendment to prohibit gay marriage, Jamie Raskin, professor of law at AU, was requested to testify.
At the end of his testimony, Republican Senator Nancy Jacobs said: “Mr. Raskin, my Bible says marriage is only between a man and a woman. What do you have to say about that?”
Raskin replied: “Senator, when you took your oath of office, you placed your hand on the Bible and swore to uphold the Constitution. You did not place your hand on the Constitution and swear to uphold the Bible.”
The room erupted into applause.
